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Sounds good! Down with tree huggers. : D Yay for chuck Norris!
 

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you apparently don't understand how oil is priced..
 
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you apparently don't understand how oil is priced..
You apparently don't understand supply and demand
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazerred6
You apparently don't understand supply and demand
actually, hes right you dont understand how oil is priced
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:09 AM
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well, seems since Pres Bush (wth 80% of Americans behind him, who are in favor) said we're going to drill offshore, oil is down @$15.00 a barrel since yesterday Im thinking all those speculators and rag-heads are starting to get a little worried now
 
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actually, hes right you dont understand how oil is priced
You are being naive and thinking in terms of improrted oil becuase that is where most of our oil comes from right now if we start drilling for our own crude oil we don't have to import as much and then the supply of oil increases this doesn't make the demand go down any but when supply increases to meet demand the price of a barrel goes down if the price of a barrel goes down the price at the pump will follow........ Take an economics course because you obviously don't know how the world works.
 

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The price of a gallon of gas in say Saudi Arabi is under 1 dollar thats beacuse the oil comes from there and from then on they can charge anyone else whatever they feel like becuase people need gas. A common myth is that the middle east has more oil reserves than we do. But the truth is we have at least twice as mush as they do and it won't be that expensive to get to we just have to get around the tree huggers and those that want the gas prices to go up *cough cough Al Gore* now if the oil came from American companys yes we would still probably never see the underside of $2.00 because we are used to it being higher but it will go down.

You can say I'm wrong B-rett but you better back up you statment or you just sound stupid you to bakos.
 
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I'm not sure if Cali has the ability to say no to offshore drilling, but I hope we do. I'm not a tree hugger, but the last thing I want to do is go to the beach in southern california and see massive oil rigs drilling. If Bush is going to ruin the beauty of the California coastline I say why stop there and build oil drilling faclities right off the shores of Hawaii. It's the same thing in my book.

With that said, I know there will have to be sacrafices made to stop our dependency on middle east oil, but not in my backyard. ha ha ha.
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:18 AM
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I'm not sure if Cali has the ability to say no to offshore drilling, but I hope we do. I'm not a tree hugger, but the last thing I want to do is go to the beach in southern california and see massive oil rigs drilling. If Bush is going to ruin the beauty of the California coast line I say why stop there and build some oil drilling faclities right off the shores of Hawaii. It's the same thing in my book.

With that said, I know there will have to be sacrafices made to stop our dependency on middle east oil, but not in my backyard. ha ha ha.

I see what your saying but most of the oil that we have is in Anwar up in Alaska and the place that they are talking about drilling there is a barren wasteland the oil shale in the rocky mountains is the other place we have a lot so I don't see a reason for them to put anything in Calf If that is one of the proposed sites I wasn't aware of it.
 
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I see what your saying but most of the oil that we have is in Anwar up in Alaska and the place that they are talking about drilling there is a barren wasteland the oil shale in the rocky mountains is the other place we have a lot so I don't see a reason for them to put anything in Calf If that is one of the proposed sites I wasn't aware of it.
Yeah, I'm not sure if they are still kicking around the idea or not since our Governor and Legislature and Caifornia Congressional Reps have all said NO WAY BUSHY. I do know that back in the late 1960's they were drilling off the coast by Santa Barbara and something happened where there was an oil spil and it created an 800 square mile slick and destroyed about 35 miles of California coastline.

I think our state also believes that "drilling domestically will not relieve the high gas prices because the prices are governed by worldwide supply and demand, not domestic supply." Don't know enough about it to form an opinion on the above statement.
 
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Our country has already built an economy that is centralized around the use of petroleum. Without it we will (and are already beginning to) fall to pieces. Normally I'm not for the use of a short term fix like this to solve such a massive problem, but we need to buy time until we can find an alternative, hopefully renewable, source of energy. I'm not a tree hugger by any means, but I would love to see Alaska remain untapped. It's a beautiful place. But I'd much rather see some pipelines and refinerys up there than continue into a recession.
 
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This is the proposed drill site


and in a different season


an oil drilling station and and a refinery would make this place look better
 
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Originally Posted by jjtgiants
I'm not sure if Cali has the ability to say no to offshore drilling, but I hope we do. I'm not a tree hugger, but the last thing I want to do is go to the beach in southern california and see massive oil rigs drilling. If Bush is going to ruin the beauty of the California coastline I say why stop there and build oil drilling faclities right off the shores of Hawaii. It's the same thing in my book.

With that said, I know there will have to be sacrafices made to stop our dependency on middle east oil, but not in my backyard. ha ha ha.

like most Kalifornians, tree-******* and liberals you dont & wont look at the whole picture......1st off, most of these oil rigs would be so-far offshore, you won't even sea them....and if Kaliforinans still want to think like this, well the other 49 states that make sense will just tax the **** outta' you all for noncompliance
 
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like most Kalifornians, tree-******* and liberals you dont & wont look at the whole picture......1st off, most of these oil rigs would be so-far offshore, you won't even sea them....and if Kaliforinans still want to think like this, well the other 49 states that make sense will just tax the **** outta' you all for noncompliance
Well no need to make this personal or start with the attacks. I believe Cali will lead the nation in creating alternative energy and I don't think our State has any interest in making oil companies any richer by destroying our coastline. At some piont the oil will dry up, so what are we going to do then? Why not start finding other energy sources?

I go ride my polluting, soil destroying dirt bike about 3 times a weeks so I'm not some liberal tree-******....I'm just saying I don't see anything wrong with trying to find other energy sources and the current administration doesn't have much interest in that.

Here is a picture of an oil drilling platform off the coast of Santa Barbara. I have seen these with my own eyes several times and they are hideous. I believe they stopped drilling in the late 1960's, but the platforms are still there.
 
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Old 07-16-2008, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jjtgiants
I'm not sure if Cali has the ability to say no to offshore drilling, but I hope we do. I'm not a tree hugger, but the last thing I want to do is go to the beach in southern california and see massive oil rigs drilling. If Bush is going to ruin the beauty of the California coastline I say why stop there and build oil drilling faclities right off the shores of Hawaii. It's the same thing in my book.

With that said, I know there will have to be sacrafices made to stop our dependency on middle east oil, but not in my backyard. ha ha ha.
You wouldn't. They are miles offshore.
 
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Well no need to make this personal or start with the attacks. I believe Cali will lead the nation in creating alternative energy and I don't think our State has any interest in making oil companies any richer by destroying our coastline. At some piont the oil will dry up, so what are we going to do then? Why not start finding other energy sources?

I go ride my polluting, soil destroying dirt bike about 3 times a weeks so I'm not some liberal tree-******....I'm just saying I don't see anything wrong with trying to find other energy sources and the current administration doesn't have much interest in that.

Here is a picture of an oil drilling platform off the coast of Santa Barbara. I have seen these with my own eyes several times and they are hideous. I believe they stopped drilling in the late 1960's, but the platforms oh are still there.


sorry dude but I call it like I sea it and the west coast has a big problem wth eco-terrorist, tree-******* and liberals trying to dick-tate poliicies to the rest of us sensible humans and it burns my ***.......you talk about riding your dirt bike in the desert or whatever, which is destroying all kinds of wildlife but you can't stand to sea an oil rig out to seatypical liberal in action, reaction
and those old oil rigs make for a GREAT wildlife habitat for fish, birds and other marine mamals but the leftes liberals that walk around wth binders on just cant sea that, go roll another one dude
and if you dont like all those old oil rigs off your coast, send 'em over here, we'ed love to add them to our artifical reef programs here in the Mid-Altantic states
 

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Originally Posted by Mr. Zip
You wouldn't. They are miles offshore.
Well, if they proposed to use the existing oil rigs then here is your answer.
 
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Originally Posted by jjtgiants
Well, if they proposed to use the existing oil rigs then here is your answer.


Looks Good tome I'd be out there in my big 53' sportfishing boat trolling all around those oil rigs for Marlin, Tuna, Dolphin and Wahoo and buring up gas thats only $1.00 a gallon or less because of these offshore oil platforms inside the US territorial waters and making money for all, but if you liberals have your way, fuel would be as much as gold (@$997.00 troy oz now), my big boat would be dry docked and we would all be ridding bikes and smokin' sensimilla...
 

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Originally Posted by Randy Stinchcomb
sorry dude but I call it like I sea it and the west coast has a big problem wth eco-terrorist, tree-******* and liberals trying to dick-tate poliicies on the rest of us and it burns my ***.......you talk about riding your dirt bike in the desert or whatever, which is destroying all kinds of wildlife but you can't stand to sea an oil rig out to seatypical liberal in action, reaction
and those old oil rigs make for a GREAT wildlife habitat for fish, birds and other marine mamals but the leftes liberals that walk around wth binders on just cant sea that, go roll another one dude
and if you dont like thoes old oil rigs off your coast, send 'em over here, we'ed love to add to our artifical reef programs here in the Mid-Altantic states
ha ha ha...Ok Randy. I'll just disagree and stop since neither one of us will budge.
 

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ha ha ha...Ok Randy. I'll just disagree and stop since neither one of us will budge.


No worries Mate, just make-sure you vote for John McCain
 
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haha John McCain is a joke. but then again so is Obama. Lotta redneck right wing mother ******* on this board. I have nothing against drillin when it comes to the environment...but it is TEMPORARY solution. Be it 50 or 100 years from now, the oil is going to run out. and if you're going to respond "well i'm gonna be dead by then giggle giggle." don't even bother. you're a waste of space.


the air must be aulfully thin in colorado springs today, huh
esp if you think like that, you sea, it's NOT just cars and truck and boats, plaines and trains that need gas or oil to run, just about everything we touch today is made of or transported by oil...everything plastic, styrofoam, vinyl and more but some of you just don't sea that, do you guess we can blame this on the lack of education, which I suppose is also the fault of the GOP
 

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Originally Posted by Badfish
haha John McCain is a joke. but then again so is Obama. Lotta redneck right wing mother ******* on this board. I have nothing against drillin when it comes to the environment...but it is TEMPORARY solution. Be it 50 or 100 years from now, the oil is going to run out. and if you're going to respond "well i'm gonna be dead by then giggle giggle." don't even bother. you're a waste of space.
No one ever said it was a perminant fix. But a temporary solution is a solution none the less even if it gives us just a little more time to come up with somthing that works then it accomplished something all the argueing without any real action is a waste of time....... just like evos (just kidding)
 
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im gonna be dead by then giggle giggle.
 
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...Apparently you still have no idea what you're talking about...same with Randy...

You do realise that Chevron/Texaco Shell Mobil Flying J, ect ect go overseas to drill right?

All the middle easterners have to say is how much they are allowed to drill, when, ect.

They drill the oil, buy it from themselves, and then put a price on it.

And you're saying "most of these rings will be so far offshore you'll never see it"..

So..Longbeach? Huntington? I go to Huntington right now and see a massive offshore rig, long beach the same.

They tried to start drilling offshore in the central coast around San Simeon, the people there BOUGHT THE LAND and told the drilling companies to gtfo. So yea, California does have a say so as to what goes on.

Considering California also has one of the LARGEST amounts of oil fields in the nation..have fun taxing us.. oh..did I mention..I live in the county with it? You're crying about supply and demand..then explain to me why oil companies are BOOMING right now and the minimum pay rate for these guys is 23 bucks an hour?

You ever realise that we've got a texas oil man in office, and we're paying over 3 bucks a gallon? Its cause we're ****** retarded. (got that from a hilarious comedian btw.)

Republicans in particular have been trying to drill off the coast of california (south to north, north where hardly, if any rigs are) for decades? Same with Alaska?

Stop be a bunch of dillusional idiots and open your eyes and figure out the facts of how oil is priced and how many barrels we've actually got full. If you don't remember .. it wasn't a very long time ago when oil companies claimed "our barrels are empty bla bla bla" and gas shot up...turns out, damn near every barrel in the US was full..
 
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OH, and if I were a "eco-terrorist tree ******" I wouldn't drive a mustang, my dad wouldn't have a chevy truck, we wouldn't go hunting and fishing... for the most part I am a conservative, my dad used to work on a rig till he lost his finger, my grandfather is the treasurer for the steel works/petroleum workers (includes major companies that i stated in the above reply)

Not to mention, Bush with his "we dont build new refineries" bullshit... then explain to me why in November a billion plus dollar refinery is going to be built in my city? Or why the other..5 that I know of under go frequent upgrades and run with amazing numbers..

I've seen the numbers my county alone produces, I have seen the quick growth that every oil company out here has taken, from the large companies, to the small.

Please note, when gas is $1.00 a gallon, oil companies lay a shitload of drillers off, and rigs shut down.
 
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SnTBakosFinest.... so tell us how you really feel.

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