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I was thinkin bout buying this car for the sole purpose of turning my car into a project car. I think 94-98 is same body like on the inside, im not positive, any input on if this swaps possible? i dont want to go 4.6 due to them being unreliable.

 

I don't know much about the swap, but people put the 351 windsor motors in all sorts of mustangs. They're a great motor.

 

4.6l unreliable??
the k-members are different, but im sure you could either swap em or, because im sure your not the first person to think of/try this, buy an aftermarket one. besides that you swap ecu/ignition system and probably gauges, steering colum, transmission, driveshaft, maybe rear end, cooling system, etc...
do some google-ing you cant be the first person to have considered it.
im kinda at a loss for words about the whole unreliable 4.6 thing, personally i think ford really did a nice job with the modular motors, not saying the 302/351 motors were bad but i really prefer mods

 

Anything is possible, but damn. I have always held a resentment towards the modular engines but, I wouldn't go as far as putting that setup in a car as nice as yours appears to be. That's some backwoods hillbilly **** right there. Wow. If you want to go carbureted and you want to do it fast then fine. But, I would like to have a 99+ with a fuel injected windsor in it instead of something that was probably poached out of an old truck from the junkyard. If you're thinking about converting that to fuel injection to put in your car, you'll need another car worth of parts that are missing from that one. Intake manifold, fuel lines, injectors, sensors, intake plumbing, engine wiring harness, computer and it's harness, and the list goes on. At least you could just unbolt the k member with the engine on it and bolt it into yours. And why is the oil pump shaft breaking on a 351W. They make a 302 pump shaft look like a toothpick. More evidence of something pilfered from the scrapyard and not bult up.
Yes, the interiors are almost identical. Just very minor changes. As far as the rest of it, I don't know what to say. The thought of that multi-colored mess under a hood as new as your makes me cringe a bit.
I do have to say though, the idea is nice. I love that big V8 lurking under the hood with the puny V6 wheels and just the cutest little V6 tailpipe poking out. Especially since the first night my car went out after I installed the drivetrain from a wrecked GT into it, it looked identical to that one. Except for a stock set of GT tail pipes and no rear wing. And I got to embarass two kids in an '89 Trans Am GTA.

 

They're both SN95s, the chassis is the same, just buy a MM K-member and dont worry about swapping it all over. It will not pass inspection either way but whatever. You can buy the aftermarket wiring and ECM for a 5.0 and use that.

I guess that thing would be worth it in parts... but I'd go through the motor before using it.

 

we don't have any kind of inspections over here, LOL and yeah it is very hillbilly goin carbureted. I would find something better, just gonna try n get a whole car similar to mine with a 5.0 or 5.8 and do the swap then, if it has FI. Mainly, in my town there are about 6 GT's and a mach 1, one gt got hydrolocked, another threw a rod, another got killed by a vortech, and the mach 1 spun a rod bearing and ruined the crank, still runs just cant be fixed without putting alotta time and money into it. so i just want me a classic pushrod engine like my 3.8 that i know is dependable. So ill take a better look into this and if i decide to do the project ill get back with everyone.

 

It all depends on how much you want to spend.. You can buy most of the stuff you need but the small stuff is gonna cost you. You're gonna have to pretty much upgrade the whole car.

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You can just run that if you dont want to have to use a factory harness.
You can pretty much use that on a 5.8 too as long as you get an injected intake.

You could use the 94-95 K-member but It would probably be easier to just get a tubular K-member.

A transmission, should be able to pick up a T5 pretty cheap. + clutch, flywheel

8.8 would be a good idea and I guess the 28 spline Ford racing driveshaft.

 

I looked into this swap awhile ago, and it isn't very hard at all. The frame for 94-04 is virtually unchanged. Remember, Ford put a 351W in the '95 Cobra R!
You will need the following...
1. 99-04 donor car
2. 94-95 GT donor car(preferred)
3. 351 EFI
4. 351 motor mounts
5. some sort of 3-4" rise hood
6. Haynes or Chilton's repair manual

preferably you would start with a 99-04 V6. the reason I say a donor 94-95 GT is that there are ALOT of little things you will need to make it work(clips, plugs, etc.), and it would be cheaper to strip out a dead GT than purchase them individually.
the motor, k-member, tranny, rear-end, instrument cluster, fuel system, and front harness/ECU need to come out of the 99-04. in there place will go the 94-95 GT components. k-member and tranny MUST be GT 94-95 pieces. rear-end can be from any V8 mustang, 94-04. Harness, cluster, and ECU MUST be 94-95.
basically, when done right,the car will look and run like it came from Ford with the 351 in it. you might hit minor snags along the way, but if you decide to go through with it, I'd be more than happy to help you out. I had most of the details figured out at one point, before I decided to drop it when I lost my job.

 

his spelling is horrible. i say do it.

 

Don't you mean 94-95 because the 96-98 all came with the 4.6.

 

If the 4.6 wasnt reliable I dont think that ford would've used it for...what? 14 years?

 

when i run into loads of cash i will get you help for sure!

and about the 4.6 its a great engine and all, but ive helped my friend in a garage and it along with 5.4's was the hardest engines to work on, and it was also the most common engine with problems. BUT aside from that the 4.6 sounds better than a 5.0, revs much better, provides much smoother power and all. In short the 4.6 can dish it out BUT it cant take it.

 

Hardest engine compared to what a lawn mower engine???

most of the things people change out are right out in the open to get to. unlike the pushrods where u have to pull the radiator and condenser to change a cam, i'll take mine on top anyday.

Even something simple like spark plugs suck on a 5.0 or 5.8 hard to reach the rear. 4.6 and 5.4 number 4 is hard to get to but u can move some things out of the way and get to it. besides that all where you can get to them.

Most common engine problems like what??? Rear main seal and intake crossover leaking. wow those are huge, must not be too mechanically inclined. if you think those are problems i wouldnt even attempt an engine swap.

It cant take it!!!
i know plenty of people where i am from that have put boost or 125+ nitrous and no problems to this day. now most are built around the power i.e suspension tranny and rearend but if your going to mod something you just cant do all engine and think its going to perform without the others mods being done.

besides unless you get what a pre 1988 5.0. the internals are basically the same crappy pistons and powder metal rods both engines peak about 400 to 450 before its a ticking time bomb.

do some reading up on topics before you bash them if the mod motors are not that great and pushrods are so much better wtf is ford still doing with the mod motors. technology will always prevail.

 

Yes! thank you, noted, and edited.

 

my 3.8 in my car is basically a small 5.0. its soo easy to work on requires no seals or anything really. im looking for reliability not a modding engine. v8 sound, more torque, just not as good a sound.. a 5.0 makes like 300tq at 3k rpms a 4.6 makes 309 or so at like 5k+, i mean im ignorant when it comes to both engines, but a 5.0 seems more solid in terms of reliability.

 

requires no seals. too bad the rear main on the 3.8s leak too. 3.8 is smaller engine size in larger engine bay i have never worked on a 5.0 or 5.8 in an sn95 but have numerous times in a fox and its a pita, not to say that the 4.6 are not a pita but with working on both engines in the bodies they came in the modulars are easier.

and ya the 5.0 makes tq quicker than the 4.6 but thats nothing a rear gear cant change 4.10 for a 4.6 3.73 for a 5.0.

to say the pushrods are more reliable just isnt true. they are good motors but let them go. just like the non pi 4.6 everyone should just let them go and get a 5.4.

 

If you think a 4.6 is hard, try an Audi. I doubt any domestic vehicle is anywhere near as much of a PITA to work on. Just deal with the damn 4.6.

 

Dude you may not have any emission testing in KY now but if you ever do you will be stuck with a racecar. Just do the 4.6 swap or trade for a GT if you want a V8.

 

i thought about doing something like that when i had my v6, but there were way too many variables to worry about so i just bought a sick *** modded gt and wabam...v8.